Thursday, March 12, 2009

Fur or No Fur?

by Jeanne Adams

Meet Bobby Ginepri, tennis star.

Is this about tennis? HECK No.

The reason he's the top feature today is that he's a sexy man with hair on his chest. Nothing airbrushed out.

Ahhhhh, a Real Man. Grins.

And so, the debate begins. Bwah-ha-ha-ha!

I go out with girlfriends and the talk eventually - or immediately - turns to our favorite topic: MEN. The other day some friends and I got into a rather wild, heated (sounds fun, right?) discussion of why all the cover models and "Sex Sells" type of photos are of men with no hair on their chests when I can bet that most real heroes, real, sexy men and, for that matter, real firemen, unlike the one on the right here, DON'T shave their chests.

Now some women are quite fond of this look. Cover models with lots of disheveled hair on their heads, but with a strong, smooth hairless chest, and the requisite ripped pecs, biceps and, of course, abs.


Have to say, I can totally appreciate it. However, it isn't my favorite. I like men with chest hair. I like men who look like men. I like burly, working, lumberjack kind of men in pictures, in real life and on covers. Or even Pierce Brosnan (Pictured on his boat here...oh, please, let's sail away!) who, tho' not burly, is certainly furry.

I like Tom Selleck who never made any secret of the fact that he was hirsute. I like the deep gravelly voice of Sam Elliott and I adore his physique as well, fur included.

Maybe I just like werewolves.

I know I like deep-voiced country singer Josh Turner and he's pretty darn furry too. Maybe there's a connection between the deep voice and the amount of chest hair? Hmmmm....I wonder if I could get a government grant to study that? Grins.

I even liked the late great Charlton Heston with his bare-chested, well-furred shot as Moses or in Planet of the Apes. Woo-hoo, Charlton! Of course, as I've mentioned before, I liked him better as a Prince of Egypt rather than Moses, the leader of the Israelites, as I'm not fond of long scraggly beards!

Which brings me to another point. What is it about men with beards? In the last few years, the goatee, the soul patch, the chin strip, balbo and the mustache have made a comeback. For years it was allllll about the clean shaven thing. (And pretty much still is when it comes to cover models.) Or that goofy looking "I forgot to shave" three day growth of beard thing.

That may look okay on Dr. McDreamy, but not on many others.

I mean, I sort of get this unshaven, messy look if you're thinking "Wow, we spent three days in the Bahamas together and he didn't shave because we spent the whole time in bed..." sort of a deal.

However anything short of a real, soft, full beard equals beard burn to me, ladies.

What about you? It may be okay for a photo, but seriously, do you really want to get all smoochy with a couple day's growth of beard?

I'm thinking going to work the next day would be interesting...

"Oh, yeah, those red marks? Well, um...uh..."

If you admit to beard burn or worse yet, collar marks, either way you're gonna get razzed. Or fired, depending on where you work.

And heaven forbid you should put "Hubba-hubba beard burn" up on your Facebook page.

Fired. Fer shure.

Now, most ball players, stars and celebrities sport some kind of facial hair - at least between games or movies appearances. I can't say I'm fond of the baseball players penchant for dying them a weird color to contrast with their uniforms, but it is an interesting look. It's cool, I just wouldn't date a guy who wore it that way. Not my thing, but somebody must really like it, right? Or am I wrong? Do these guys get dates with a blue or red or pink patch of fuzz on their chins?

One of my girlfriends posited that the trend started with Mens Fitness and other such magazines who took their start, if you will, from body building. In body building its all about the muscles, so they don't want that pesky hair in the way.

Shave! Depilitate! (OUCH!)

And then there's the swimmers, of course, who want nothing, not one little hair, to ruin their aquadynamics and slow them down in the water. Shave! Depilitate!

(May I repeat...OUCH!)

So then Real Men, who actually DO read fashion magazines - what are Men's Fitness, GQ, and so on if not fashion mags? - decided that the only way to be cool, and be sexy and attract the hot chicks was to be smooth skinned and slick-chested.


NOT that these men in their nice fitting jeans aren't gorgeous, but really... do you want to go out with a guy who spent more time in the salon getting waxed than you did? Or whose idea of fun is a good shave down?

Obviously, the delicious Hugh Jackman, pictured golfing in his bath towel (I didn't ask, not sure I want to know) didn't go for the body shave....or the face shave for that matter!

Several years ago, Dianne Duane wrote a book in the Star Trek series in which Commander Troi took Commander Riker home with her. It's rather uninhibited on her planet, according to Troi, and weddings take place in the nude. Commander Riker sported quite the serious rug of chest hair and when they went to a wedding, Troi's relatives were intrigued. What was all that hair good for, they asked.

Troi's response?


I absolutely laughed out loud. I remember this quite well because I was reading in the doctor's office and the receptionist opened the sliding glass thing which separated her from the mere patients, in order to see what or who was making all that noise and disturbing her game of computer solitaire. I ignored her and kept laughing.

(Made everyone else in the waiting room smile, so there, receptionist!)

So, traction or no traction? Is chest hair for you?

Do you like your men strong, powerful and furry like English Rugby star Ben Cohen on the right? (Great pic of him with one of his twin daughters, isn't it?)

Or do you like that built, slick, smooth and sexy look like my hunky CSI Las Vegas Nick over on the left?

Mustache and beard or cleeeeeaaaaan shaven?

To dye that beard a color or not?

Inquiring minds want to know...


limecello said...


Treethyme said...

Okay, limecello, now you're just being mean.

I almost had a heart attack when I saw all those chests Jeanne posted, and I DIDN'T EVEN STOP TO LOOK AT THEM. I figured I'd grab the GR and come back and spend my time ogling those pix.

But, nooooooo, the GR is back at your place again. Hmmm. Is that GR up to some funny business?

Treethyme said...

What happened to the cool image you had by your name yesterday?

Anna Campbell said...

Oh, man, you two better start thinking about picking out a china pattern, Limecello!

Jeanne, this is obviously something you feel very strongly about! Um, can I say I like it both ways???!!! I must admit my guys in the books have hair - of varying degrees of luxuriance, Erith, for example, was an hairy man - but I figure that would have been suitable for the times. No nose hairs, though!

Treethyme said...

Now that I have spent some time drooling over Jeanne's post, I will answer her questions:

Traction? Yes, please!

Sure, there are a lot of waxed chests in the collection my critique partner and I have been filing away (primarily book covers).

But there are chests that draw an appreciative glance and there are those that, as Anna C. would say, are HAWT!! For me, those always have hair.

Not gorilla hair, mind you, and I prefer it confined to the usual spots and not wall-to-wall.

But I do like fuzz, on the chest, on the face, wherever. Goatees are always a plus in my book, but beards? Not so much. Ditto the soul patch, even when it's on Bruce Springsteen. (Bruce! What were you thinking?!) The Don Johnson look might be grubby and out-of-date, but it's still a winner in my book.

Back to those hairless six-packs: as pretty as they are to look at, they make me think of silicone, um, bazongas. Interesting, but not realistic.

Those heavily muscled, neatly waxed guys clearly spend most of their time in a gym, admiring their physiques (with good reason).

I appreciate their hard work, but who wants a guy who is more interested in his body than the woman next to him? Buff is nice, but a real guy is still nicer.

jo robertson said...

Great topic, Jeanne.

Hey, Limecello, do you sit on that blog waiting for the rooster? Isn't he wearing you out by now or are you putting him to work? Getting a massage? Guess your answer to the hairy question is YES, but feathers!!

I love a man with chest hair and a luscious full head of head-hair, no surprise with my husband. I know the smooth, slick chest is cool with many women, but it always looks a little girly to me.

limecello said...

lol that is a LOT of questions, Jeanne - but a topic I can happily discuss as well ;) I think my favorite picture might be the one you posted of Bobby Ginepri. He looks really good - and has the added bonus of being a "new find" for me. I think I can go both ways - but the whole half naked man cover models are :X getting a bit old to me. Inevitably they don't look like the actual heroes (and yes I KNOW authors hardly ever have any say over the covers) - but honestly - it's overkill. I'm done with it- it doesn't make me want to buy a book. If anything, it's the opposite :X (Maybe I should go into hiding now... or not - maybe the GR will protect me?)

I think body hair is fine - but ... I guess I'm pickier as to where and how much :P Some, but not too much. Epilating is painful. *very.* I think the shaving etc -yes came about because of the fashion mags, but also for body builders - they do it so they can show off their muscles better, yes?

And clean shaven. Beard burn is called that for a reason. The burn. Ungood. Lastly, dyed beards? Just thinking of the few I've seen - they're scraggly and really unattractive to me. No.

Donna MacMeans said...

Lord, I love your posts Jeanne! VBG
Sexy comes in all shapes, with fur and without. I like variety. LOL on the traction!

As for beard burn - it's best hidden on the inner thigh...

Leslie said...

What a fasnicating topic Jeanne. It looks like you had to do a lot of research for this. :)

I don't mind some hair but not like a grizzly bear. I don't want a mouth full of fur when I'm going for his... nipple.

What did you think I was going to say? *blinks innocently*

Jane said...

I'm all for a little chest hair, but not so much that it needs to be groomed by a comb. I'm also a fan of the smooth chest. I like clean shaven faces, too. No stache or beard is preferable. A goatee is fine.

Congrats on the GR, Limecello.

Inky Productions said...

Clean shaven, or McDreamy look if he can pull it off. Anything Johnny Depp ever does, but usually only on him... and a nice smooth chest... now when do we talk bunny trails? lol

Keira from

Marg said...

Must have been fun researching this post!

I prefer a little fur - not a whole rug, just enough to twist around in your fingers and give a good pull, even though you know that he isn't going to love that!

I can't say I have been with a guy with a full beard, but a moustache can certainly have its moments!

Tawny said...

Oh. My.

*happy sigh* were there words on that post? I must have missed them. My eyes were glued to the yummy view.

Okay - read the words by squinting with one eye *ggg* Traction? OMGOMGOMG LOL I love it!!!

I'm all about the traction. And to resond to Donna's comment?


Amy Andrews said...

Hi, here again. Can you tell I'm having a slack writing week??

OMG Donna! Nearly spat my mouthful of shiraz all over the computer!! Couldn't agree more.

I'm a bit of a half and half too. Chest hair but not too much. Not a beard/mou fan although like Marg said mou's can have their moments ;-) I think they look quite good on movie stars but would prefer someone I was with to be clean shaven.

Although contrarily I am a fan of the smooth ripped look and do tend to write heroes with no chest hair. But I hasten to add this is because they are naturally not hairy chested - like in real life. My husband has hardly any - just the nipples and snail trail. And he doesn't wax or shave - he's blonde and that's just the way he's always been.
So yes to no hair if its natural. Otherwise bring on the fur :-)

Helen said...

limcello he is all yours have fun with him

Jeanne this is just what I needed after a hard day at work I will dream well tonight thank you.

I like a bit of hair not too much as Jane said that it needs to be combed love Tom Selleck and Peirce Brosnan and of course Hugh don't get my wrong the others are great eye candy as well I am happier with a bit of hair my hubby has some not a lot though but he has a beard and has done since about a year after we got married so I am very used to it.
Donna I love your idea LOL

Have Fun

Tawny said...

When I first posted, half of the pictures were little red x's on my screen. Now I see my man, Johnny.

Le Sigh.

thats all... just had to breath deep lusty sighs.

hrdwrkdmom aka Dianna said...

So, traction or no traction? Is chest hair for you?
I like a little, not hairy ape furry but some fuzz isn't bad at all.

Do you like your men strong, powerful and furry like English Rugby star Ben Cohen on the right?
Oh yeah, that would work for me!

Or do you like that built, slick, smooth and sexy look like my hunky CSI Las Vegas Nick over on the left?
That doesn't look bad either but I think if it is contrived no, if it is natually un-hairy yes. How about that? My BF has very little, I mean, you can count them he has so few chest hairs, so if it is natually smooth that is cool too.

Mustache and beard or cleeeeeaaaaan shaven?
I prefer clean shaven for several reasons but the main one being I do not like beard burn, at all. Takes all the fun out of it if I am in pain.

To dye that beard a color or not?
I never really thought about it but I would say no to color.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hahah! Hey Limecello, you are getting the bird AGAIN? :> wow.

Becke, I'm betting on funny business, aren't you?

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Becke, I love that all those gorgeous male chests were heart stoppers for you. Can't tell you how much fun I had finding them for the blog. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Anna, I'm totally with you on the no nose hair. Bleeeech.

Back hair is something I could skip too, but if you've got hair up front, usually it rolls over too. Oh, well. No gain without some *wince* pain...

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Now there, Becke, you've hit it dead on. I want that guy looking at ME, not at his own reflection, seeing if he's flexed enough. Grins.

I collect my share of *ahem* research pictures, but what started me on this rant, besides the aforementioned convo with the gals, was that I was looking for a hero and realized that most of the piccies I had were furred lads.

BTW, I almost used the Don Johnson reference in the post, but I figured I'd lose a few people with the being a mere babe when the show came know... Grins.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Yep, Jo. A weeeee bit girly. :> Having seen pix of Dr. Big, he sure has the full head of hair. :>

Now my guy's got the balding thing going. I decdied not to even GO there with this crowd. :>

Louisa Cornell said...

Limecello? AGAIN ?? Sounds like someone needs to go to Doctors Commons for a special license. A special and rather kinky license!

I am with Treethyme. I spend so much time enjoying the visual aids I almost forgot to post!

I am not crazy about the fully furry, but anything short of that is fine. Just as long as it is (a) natural and (b) and on someone as well-built as my dear Duchesse's examples. And I do love a good bunny trail!

Facial hair is NOT a big turn on for me. There are a few men who wear it well, but not many. My DH was so baby-faced I felt like a cradle robber in spite of the fact he was only two years younger than me. He was still getting carded at 30!

Kirsten said...

Ooo, Jeanne, most excellent post!! I think I'm like the other gals, I like some hair, not too much (your pictures of men with hair were PURRRRFECT!) but if the man was born with a naked chest? Fine. I'm okay with that too. I just don't want a man who shaves.

As far as I'm concerned -- real men DON'T shave their chests.

Okay, I realize this is not PC, or whatever. But when I want a hero, I don't want someone who reads Men's Health and Fitness.

If you ask me, real men don't shave, tweeze, or dye their beards (ew!!). I know, it's horrible. But I'm old fashioned that way. I want a man who doesn't give a rip what he looks like, is horrified by the very thought of getting his nails done, and would much prefer to be outside working than inside lifting weights so his muscles will be pretty.

Old school. I'm way old school on this one.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Limecello I like the way you think! I agree with you on the covers *ducking* although I know they are popular. If they DID look like the way the hero's described, I might be more for them. :> And you're right, authors DON'T have any say on the covers unless they're really big names. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

DONNA! Snork! I was ROFLMAO about the inner thigh thing. SNORK!

I agree...on the hawt comes in all "flavors" bit.

I learned, during my research for this blog, that the lovely line of hair pointing south on a man's body is called a Treasure Trail.

Was I the only one who didn't know this?

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Leslie, you crack me up. No, I agree, no grizzlies. Wouldn't want to cover up those...nipples.

*also blinks innocently*

So many lovely...nipples...out there. :>

BTW, I love your icon. It's a red panda, right?

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Morning Jane. A vote for clean shaven, eh? I enjoy a 'stache, and goatee, but the whole Grizzly Adams beard thing or the ZZ Top look is a turn OFF. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

HI Keira! Love Romance Productions? Do tell!! And I love the Inky Productions logo. :>

Bunny Trail? Okay, is that the Treasure Trail? Grins.

You're right about M. Depp. There are looks only he can pull off. I'm specifically thinking of the dual drop goatee in POC.

Joan said...

Yes, please. I would like a bit of the furring on the well muscled chest.

Just a wee is prefered.

I'm such a tactile person that the cripness just adds...well...ahem, it adds.

I enjoy a close cropped beard and scruff is really pleasing, straight moustaches not so much.

For a man to be totally shaven? That's just not natural to me. But a lot on the back? Also NOT natural and must be waxed away...immediately!

Now, what about hair in the ears?

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hey Marg! Good Morning! Wasn't this a lovely post to wake up to? :> I agree on the mat but no rug part. And you're right, the tug's for you, not him. Grins.

BTW, love your little lego knight icon.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Tawny! I know, the words were kind of extraneous, weren't they?


I purposefully did NOT put Mr. Depp shirtless. I know you're on deadline. Didn't want you mesmerized for the whole day. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Amy! I'm guessing from the Shiraz that you posted last night. Hahah! Have to agree on the "Natural" thing. Take the pic of Hugh Jackman - no wait, don't TAKE it - ahem. For example, the elegant Mr. Jackman, avec towel. He's natural. Not a grizzly, but not bare nekkid either.

Very nice, in fact. I think I'll go back and gaze at that for a know, for research...

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Helen! So glad I was able to give you good dream material! :>

I think we're getting a nice cosensus that natural and moderate are good. :>

terrio said...

They color their beards? Really? I like baseball, how did I miss this?

I prefer men to hair on their chests. Seems unnatural to me for them not to have any. However, there is such a thing as too much. *shivers* And that hair on the back or the back of the neck? *double shivers* Gots to go!

I wonder if the GR is dying his feathers a nice lime color? LOL!

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Dianna! I love the fact that you're with me on the beard burn thing. :> My DH can have a five oclock shadow by four even if he shaved that morning, and I've got really fair skin.

It SO shows... you know what I mean? Snork.

I think you've hit on it, in that if the chest is smooth naturally, it's a good look. If it's contrived, well, it's contrived!

terrio said...

Oh, very nice pics, BTW. Definitely made my day. LOL!

Terry Odell said...

All my heroes have chest hair. Gives the heroine something to play with afterward.

I recall long long ago that Michael Landon, when he was still Little Joe, had not wanted to appear bare-chested in an episode because he was embarrassed about his lack of chest hair. A man before his time.

I was browsing through Bed Bath & Beyond the other day and saw this 'man groomer' thing. It was basically a shaver on a long, jointed handle -- to deal with back hair.

I've only seen one man who I thought could benefit from serious manscaping -- we were in a country restaurant, very rustic, and he came in wearing a tank top, looking like a furry animal. Way, way, way LOTS of hair. Even hubby thought he needed to do something about it (although his solution would have been to wear a less-revealing shirt).

Nope -- I see a bare-chested guy and assume he didn't come by the look naturally, and I don't want to think about him at the salon--or wherever guys go.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hey Louisa! Good Morning! Had to SO lol about going to the Commons for a special and kinky license. SNORK!!! :>

The babyfaced look can be matured by a goatee or beard, but there are some men who just look ridiculous in a beard. One of my ex-boyfriends used to grow a beard in the winter. Dumb. It was always half grey, even though his hair was still dark. He looked like a patchwork quilt with that thing on his face. Goofy. :>

There's that bunny trail reference again...hmmm. I like that.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Kirsten said: As far as I'm concerned -- real men DON'T shave their chests.

See? See? That's it. I'm waaaaay old school on this too. And the guy with the polished nails? He's usually villain material in my book. Narcissistic, you know. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Ahhh, Joan! A fellow Kinesthetic. I am just all about the textures, you know... :>

Crisp and curly is good. 'Nuff said.

Ick on the ear hair. ICK. They make grooming tools for that, you know? Make use of them. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Mornin' Terrio! :> Some of the pitchers in the last year or so have gotten into this beard/chin strap dying thing. Pink, green. Urg. Dude, it's scraggly and gross as it is, DON'T draw MORE attention to it by dying it.

Right? Am I right here, ladies?

*Rolls eyes*

Anyway, I'm Snorking about the lime grean feather dye. I think the GR's too much the ladies man, man about town to be TOO obvious with the green feathers, but hey, he's been home with her what? Four days in a row?

Suzanne Welsh said...

Ah, men. With or without chest hair. YES.

Ahem. Okay.

I love both versions, but am partial to some hair on the chest. The feel of it beneath my hands or against my...yep. And while I love seeing the men in the cover shots sans hair, I'm definitely one who appreciates the springy feel of chest hair.

Facial hair....Can I just say...Jim Cavesal in The Count Of Monte Cristo? Oh. My. God.

And as for beards on ball players. Well trimmed, full beards or goatees, yummo. It lends a deeper masculinity IMHO.

And voices. Sam Elliott makes beef sexy!! (By the way, as cute as Matthew McConaughey is, he will not be as successful a beef spokesman as Sam!)

Suzanne Welsh said...

Soul patches....I KNOW the purpose. Do I think they're attractive or sexy? Duh, NOPE

Christie Kelley said...

LOL, I love your post, Jeanne!

For me, I do like a little hair. But not super furry. And absolutely no furry backs--ick!

BTW, I'll take that picture of Jackman with the towel please.

I'm really not a big fan of face hair. I do think the not shaved in three days looks good but as you said, not comfortable for the woman.

flchen1 said...

Woo, Jeanne! Quite a post, although like many others, it took me a while to get to the words :D I prefer not too much chest hair, but also don't think a man should have to shave or wax or whatever to get there (unless you're an athlete or whatever--then do whatever you've got to do to reduce wind resistance or whatnot).

And definitely clean shaven, although that haven't shaved in a couple days look is kind of hot--I doubt it'd feel too good up close and personal ;) And not too fond of beards, period, but no funky colors please! Did Blackbeard dye?

The GR's definitely moving in, Limecello!

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Terry Odell, SNORK! Manscaping?! SNORK! Too funny! I was so LOL. I've see those shaver tools. Pretty weird looking. :>

I don't like the man-imal, Neanderthal look either. I have a friend who's DH is so furry he got Lyme Disease.

MsHellion said...

I like my men, in real life, moderately furry. I don't want an Austen Powers' pelt (*body shudder of disgust*), but a little traction is nice. *LOL*

But I also like beard burn. *LOL* My honey always apologizes if he didn't shave but I so don't mind. It's my favorite. (I'm not so enamored with full beards. They look okay on the occasional guy, but I don't want to make out with it.)

I still like Johnny Depp's chest, puny, hairless underdeveloped teenage boy thing it looks like. I'll take him hairless or furry...I'll just take him, period.

Treethyme said...

I think we can blame Donna for all the sticky keyboards today, from all of us who choked when we read her little aside.

Reading this post reminded me of a conversation I had with my husband recently. Bear in mind, we're both 56 and have been married forever.

He was watching something on TV and I was reading (probably something one of you wrote). He saw me checking out the cover about the same time I saw him checking out Jennifer Love Hewitt (or as he calls her, Jennifer, Love and Hewitt).

I made the comment that my relatively recent obsession with the male chest made it easier for me to understand the male fascination with boobs. (That's the technical name for them, of course.)

He didn't even pause to think about it. He just shot back, "It's not the same thing. Not unless women actually lose all the blood in their brain at the sight of a chest." (Or something like that.)

So, maybe not quite the same thing.

Vicki said...

Ooh that's a hard question. I like them both. Not a ton of hair though, just enough to...okay, I'm going to go back and actually read the post now. Which I'm sure is wonderful. :D

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Suz, Yes, Yes, Yes, and OHHHHH Yes!

Grins. Sam Elliott...ah....

Okay, you're going to have to enlighten me as to the purpose of soul patches. Off loop if it's really risque... :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Morning Christie! Is it as gorgeous up your way as it is down here by the river? :>

Nice view on the blog anyway.

Isn't that pic of Hugh divine? Not sure what the golfing-in-a-towel is about, but I really don't care. It's SUCH a lovely view...

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Fedora! Words? There were words in that post? Grins. Even though I wrote them, when I went back to double check spelling I had a hard time reading the pictur...I mean the words. :>

On the scruffy look, I agree, it can look very sexy, but up close and personal? Beard. Burn. OUCH.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Perfectly put, MsHellion. "A little traction is nice"

HAHA on Austin Powers - too true on the shudder. Ick.

I think you'll have to fight Tawny Depp for that puny, hairless chest of Johnny's. Ha! He sure can grow facial hair though. I couldn't find any recent pictures of him WITHOUT facial hair of some kind. Not since the 21JumpSt. days. I looked - such a hard ship, of course! - but everything recent is beareded or goateeeeed.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Treethyme said: He didn't even pause to think about it. He just shot back, "It's not the same thing. Not unless women actually lose all the blood in their brain at the sight of a chest." (Or something like that.)

So, maybe not quite the same thing.

HAHAHAH!!! Snork! SO true. No wonder women are so much more level headed at times. :> We do get excited and thrilled, but the blood doesn't drain out of our brains during the event.


Great comeback on his part though.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Vicki! Great to see you. Post? There was a word-filled post? Snork.

BTW? Enjoy! Grins.

Joan said...

Ick on the ear hair. ICK. They make grooming tools for that, you know? Make use of them. :>

Hey, Duchesse! I don't have it! Just an incredibly large number of the poor old guys who come into the hospital.

Beware the well furred man who has a procedure and then has to have the heart monitor leads RIPPED off!!!


Joan said...

It's not the same thing. Not unless women actually lose all the blood in their brain at the sight of a chest."

Note to Becke's husband:

We women can keep the blood in our brain AND enjoy the...well the "want to emit a growl" at the sight of a man's chest. (My fav of Jeanne's pics? The tennis player with his arms behind the racket....growlllllll

p226 said...

LOL. I haven't read any of the responses, but morbid curiosity will ensure that I go back and do so.

I just wanted to say that I don't like beards on women. Nor do I like hairy chests.

While traction might be a valid pro, the aesthetic cons of hairy-chested women simply outweigh any ... coital gymnastic benefits.

Suzanne Welsh said...

Jeanne...uhm will tell you off loop about the soul patches. You might have a new appreciation for them, or at least understand why young women like men with them...

And Sam could simply read the dictionary to me and get me hot and bothered with his voice.

In choir I had buddies who were tenors, but LOVED me some basses!

p226 said...

now when do we talk bunny trails? lol

Bunny trails?


p226 said...

Now my guy's got the balding thing going. I decdied not to even GO there with this crowd. :>

Yeah. That's why I shave my head and go all que-ball. My hair's leaving my head to retire in the warm, tropical climate of my ass.

p226 said...

I learned, during my research for this blog, that the lovely line of hair pointing south on a man's body is called a Treasure Trail.

I always called it "The Happy Trail."

Suzanne Welsh said...

I always called it "The Happy Trail."

Which gives a whole new meaning to the Roy Rogers song, "Happy Trails to You."

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Don't think I haven't hummed that tune a time or too at opportune moments.

Treethyme said...

The Happy Trail? Bad enough I'm going have that song stuck in my head all day, but now I'll have that image, too.

Oddly enough, I think Roy Rogers was the first guy I thought was hot. I was about five then. Guess I started the road to ruin at a young age!

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Oh, JT, you are SO a woman after my own heart. :>

As to the EKG leads. YEOUCH! My Dh just had hernia surgery - umbilical - and that bandage? OUCH! on the rip-off part.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said... one word....SNORK!!!!

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Suz, I love the bass voice. I could listen to James Earl Jones read the frickin' phone book. :>


And Josh Turner? Oh. My. Goodness. Joanie T appreciates it, too, I know, since she's the one who told me to look him up.

Sweeeeeeeet. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Oh, Suz, now I'm singing Happy Trails to You and thinking all sorts of NOT Howdy Doody Thoughts.


Terry Odell said...

Jeanne -
Try this
link to see the male grooming tool.

I'm still snorking over the Treasure Trail.

Genella deGrey said...

When it comes to men, I enjoy a wondrous variety.
High-five to the women of diversity!

Virginia said...

Congrats limecello, on grabbing the GR again.

I can take the hairy men or leave them. Some look good in the beard and some don't. I don't care for a lot of chest hair though. Love Sam Elliot though, that voice is a killer.

My son has been coverd in hair since the age of about 12 and wears a beard until he decides to shave. He will shave it all off and then regrow it again. H says he's just to lazy to shave.

Susan Sey said...

Jeanne, you naughty girl. Today's topic was just an excuse to google a bunch of hot, bare (or furry) chests, wasn't it?

You're a genuis.

I, personally, am a fan of real men--the kind who occur naturally in the wilderness. Furry, non-furry, tall, short, hefty, scrawny, doesn't matter. As long as they're strong enough to make me feel safe, gentle enough to make me feel safe (either extreme gives me the icks), funny enough and smart enough to keep me engaged & on my toes, they can come in whatever sort of exterior god gave 'em. Lord knows I'm counting on menfolk giving me the same kind of lee-way.

That said, I do appreciate it when they make an effort to make the most of what god gave 'em. :-) I dont care for that sculpted, waxed-and-shaved look, but it's nice when I'm not the one we look to for the opening of stubborn jars & the lifing of heavy furniture.

Donna MacMeans said...

A Treasure Trail? LOL - Love it!
That may end up in a book! Thanks for the research, Jeanne -

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Genella! I agree! Diversity RULES.


Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Okay Virginia, the visual of a hairy 12 year old...shades of I Was A Teenaged Werewolf....

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Susan Sey said: Jeanne, you naughty girl. Today's topic was just an excuse to google a bunch of hot, bare (or furry) chests, wasn't it? You're a genuis.

Caught me, dead to rights. GRINS!!! Love to oogle.

Have to agree on what you said, esp. about the lifting of heavy furniture and jar opening. :> My DH having to be on a No Lifting Over 10 lbs restriction for six weeks made me realize just how much I count on him for that sort of thing. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

As to the Research, Donna, you are SO welcome. My pleasure. Really.


Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindy said...

Shame on you Duchesse!

Aunty has snorked so much over your post and these comments that her sides are aching!

Traction?!?! Manscaping?!?! Bunny/happy trails? And where but the Lair would you have such a discussion on beard burn?!?!

Okay, I've said it before (in response to all those bare torso covers) and will continue to say it: I like my men with chest hair! No, not the Austin Powers shag carpet chest (Still SNORKING over that one) but enough for... yes, TRACTION!

As for facial hair, not so much, thought interestingly enough, my DH has a moustache and has had one for the entire 20 years we have known each other. Yes, I have NEVER seen him with a bare upper lip.

slinking back to the cave still snorking

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p226 said...

So... I posed your quandary to Mrs. P226 in IM a few minutes ago.

P226: neither
P226: they're talking about chest and facial hair on dudes.
P226: I told them I prefer my women without chest or facial hair.

MrsP226: ahhhhh.... I still say no fur
MrsP226: unless you can't afford dental floss... in that case you want fur.

flchen1 said...

P226, you and the Mrs. just cracked me up. Must leave before I have to explain why I'm laughing to the kids...

So much snorking, Jeanne! So much!

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hey AC!! Wow, I lured you out of the cave? Impressive. Then again, is IS an attractive temptation today, isn't it. :>

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hey P226! Please tell the Mrs. that the dental floss comment made me have to clean Diet Coke off the keyboard.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

I'm with you on the snorking Fedora. I've had to prevaricate with my own children about why I'm laughing so much.

p226 said...

Jeanne, she said she'd pay for a replacement keyboard if it doesn't work when it dries out.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

P226 tell her thanks for me. I keep a cloth handy for drying the keyboard and monitor since the Bandita's reguarly cause this reaction. Not namin' names but (DONNA) some of the Banditas are quite witty and (ANNA) like to pun and tell sly stories (SUZ) and so forth. Snorking and spewage happen, you know? :>

Marg said...

Maybe this photo will help sway some more people over to the no fur side:

Renee said...

I'm with Anna C. I like them both ways. Thanks for the, uh, eye-candy.


Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

OMGosh, Marg! That's a riot. I saw some that were trimmed into the shape of a martini glass, and another that was shaped into a baseball glove, but I didn't they they were delish in any way. Skipped those for the blog post.


I'd'a skipped this one too. Obviously, someone has WAAAAAAAY too much time on his hands....

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Renee, you are MOST welcome. After all, this kind of eye-candy benefits ALL it's beholders...


Christine Wells said...

Jeanne, great topic! I don't really mind either way, I've decided. Not all that keen on the really buffed and polished chest look but only because of what it says about the man--that he probably does spend more time on personal grooming than I do. Aesthetically, I think either way can be good. Swimmers tend not to have chest hair and I find their bodies are gorgeous. But then, they are not waxing through vanity, which might also have something to do with it.

Facial hair on a man, however, I don't feel ambivalent about. Can't stand it. I hate beard burn. Had a co-worker who developed a nasty rash on her chin and she told me that's what it was from. Erk! TMI.

Congrats, Limecello! You know, I think we're going to have to get the rooster to put on some of his countersurveillance moves, just so someone else can get him!

Pat Cochran said...

I've read through all the comments
and I join Aunty in having "laughed
'til my sides ache!" This is so
hilarious, especially M/M P226! And
happy trails!! Please, I don't know how much more I can take! I'm going to leave my answers and then rest for a while! Lightly furred, & no "I forgot to shave" look (it makes a fellow's face look dirty) and I do not enjoy the painfulness of the burn. No beard
or moustache!

Pat Cochran

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Christine!! I agree about the TMI on the co-worker. :>

I can handle the beard if it's full, but that stubble...OUCH!

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Pat, I'm so glad you're getting a charge out of it, I am too. I've been laughing all day about it. :>

Dina said...

I've never been with a guy who had alot of chest hair, but if I don't think I'd mind.

Gannon Carr said...

I'm a big fan of chest hair--my hubby has the perfect amount. *g*

As for facial hair, it depends. My husband has been clean-shaven, with a mustache and now a goatee. I love them all! And my dh has some gray in his beard and I think it's very sexy.

Leah said...

OMG!! This post is hilarious and I'm drooling from all the eye candy in it!! OK...I've experienced both the no fur and fur varieties and I have to say that a man with some chest hair is more sexy and masculine to me than one with either stubble (let's face it even if they wax there's only a few days of true smooth) or way too much rule...I need to still be able to see my hand when I run my fingers through his chest hair. :)

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Heehee, Dina, it's good if the guy's good. Ha!

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Hi Gannon! I never minded facial hair either, and as you already know, I love me some chest hair...

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Oh, this is great!

I was SO LOL about what you said Leah, when you said:

my rule...I need to still be able to see my hand when I run my fingers through his chest hair. :)


Cassondra said...

Okay I have NOT read the comments, and I'm really bummed about that--having to work today and missing this day in the lair.

BUT...for the record...

I like the three-day beard growth. I think it's sexy. And I don't care if I get a burn ya know? I just don't. If he's hot enough I just don't care. I don't like full beards. I like a guy the way God made him--fur or no fur, but not a full beard. I just don't like 'em. Especially really long ones. Blech. There are a lot of guys, though, who look better, IMO, with facial hair. But not a full, grown-out beard. No.

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

Yep, we agree on the "no full grown out beard" Cassondra. :>

I'll agree too that if he's THAT Hawt? I don't care if he shaved or not. Snork. However, given a choice, I'll skip the beard burn.

(And the rug burn too, but again, sometimes, it's just the moment...)

Jeanne (AKA The Duchesse) said...

THanks for hanging out with me today, everyone! I appreciate all the fun comments and the giggles too.


Dina said...

Facial hair is ok to me, love a clean shaven face, but also adore alittle scruff.

Jeanne, I agree, it depends on the man.;)

Dellani Oakes said...

I like some chest hair, but I don't like uber hairy. Not into the full blown, wolfman look, but a little chest hair and the V shaped patch lower down, are kinda sexy.

Three day growth of beard is not sexy. Beards are sexy. Clean shaven is sexy. I have very delicate skin and not into stubble burn, thanks!

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